DYS  MARKER  #      
 
Expanded View of Y-DNA Test Results with Database Comparisons
( Comments are in the far right column )
      DYS  MARKER  #      
 
Kit #
Name
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O
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7
6
5
7
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C
D
Y
a
C
D
Y
b
4
4
2
4
3
8
DYS MARKER # columns represent DNA Y
Chromosome Segment values for up to 37 DNA
markers tested.  HAPLO column is for Haplogroups
which denote deep family ancestry group relation-
ships.  
Red Markers tend to mutate at a faster rate
than others.
55330
William J.
Ham
1819 NC
1890 AL
  13
22
15
10
13
14
11
14
11
13
11
29
                                                  Results from  Leonard David (Dave) Hamm,
3 generations removed from William J. Ham.  This line
of descent is through Robert Solomon Ham.
                                                                                 
                                                                                 
Kit #
Name
H
A
P
L
O
3
9
3
3
9
0
1
9
3
9
1
3
8
5
a
3
8
5
b
4
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9
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5
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4
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7
4
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7
4
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8
4
4
9
4
6
4
a
4
6
4
b
4
6
4
c
4
6
4
d
4
6
0
G
A
T
A
H
4
Y
C
A
II
a
Y
C
A
II
b
4
5
6
6
0
7
5
7
6
5
7
0
C
D
Y
a
C
D
Y
b
4
4
2
4
3
8
DYS MARKER # columns represent DNA Y
Chromosome Segment values for up to 37 DNA
markers tested.  HAPLO column is for Haplogroups
which denote deep family ancestry group relation-
ships.  
Red Markers tend to mutate at a faster rate
than others.
42370
William J.
Ham
1819 NC
1890 AL
I1a
13
22
15
10
13
14
11
14
11
13

***
11
29

***
14
8
9
8
11
23
16
20
27
12
14
15
16
11
10
19
21
14
14
16
20
35
36
11
10
Marker test results in this row are from a Y-DNA
sample from Marvin J. Hamm, Jr., 5 generations
removed from William J. Ham.  
*** Markers 389-1 &
389-2 are connected.  389-2 totals will effectively
"double record" changes which occur only in 389-1. In
this case there is only one mutation (389-1).  This line
of descent is through Robert Solomon Ham.
FTDNA


YHRD
12 Marker
Database

11 Marker
Database



9 Markers

Haplotypes
as % of the
Population:
Norway
Denmark


London
Barcelona
Blekinge
Dusseldorf
Dusseldorf
Dusseldorf
Norway
I1a


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%  
2.0
3.0

%  
0.7
0.9
2.5
1.4
4.7
2.0
4.4
13


13
13
13
13

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13
13


13
13
13
13
13
13
13
22


22
22
22
22

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22
22


22
22
22
23
22
23
23
15


15
14
15
14

15




15
14


15
15
15
14
14
14
14
10


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10
10
10

10




10
10


10
10
10
10
10
10
10
13


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13
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13

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13
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14


14
14
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15

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14
14


14
14
14
14
14
14
14
11
14
11


11
11
11
11

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13
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13
12


12
12
12
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12
12
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11


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11
11
11
11
11
11
11
29


29
29
29
30

29




29
28


29
28
28
29
28
28
29
                                               


10
10
10
10

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12 marker db -- 25 matches: Scotland = 11; Ireland,
Sweden, & England = 3; UK, Wales, Denmark,
Norway & France = 1 each
11 mkr db:  Denmark & Stuttgart, Germany = 1 each    
11 mkr db:  Denmark & Central Portugal = 1 each        
11 marker database:  Denmark = 1                               
11 marker database:  Denmark = 2                               

9 mkr db:11 matches: Sweden=3; Gotland,Sweden=1;
Vasterbotten, Sweden=1;Central Norway=1;
Hamburg,
Germany=1; Tyrol, Austria = 1; Italy = 3        
                


Central Norway = 2%; Vasterbotten, Sweden = 2.4%   
Northern Norway = 4.4%; Greenland = 4.1% (Inuit);
Birmingham,UK = 2%                                                  .

London = 0.7%                                                              
Barcelona, Spain=0.9%; Vasterbotten,Sweden= 4.9%
Blekinge, Sweden 2.5%                                                
Dusseldorf, Germany = 1.4%                                        
Dusseldorf = 4.7%; Bern, Switzerland = 2.2%             .
Dusseldorf = 2%; Greifswald, Germany = 1%               
Northern Norway = 4.4%                                               
PQ4ZU
Arthur
Hamm
1927-1978
WV
I1a
13
22
14
10
13
14
11
14
11
14
11
30
                                                  I have been unable to make contact with the DNA
donor for this listing.  Believed to be a cousin from
Dave Hamm's line.   
Bluefield, West Virginia
Data from Ysearch.org
40777
William
Ham, Sr.
1755 -1813
VA
I1a
13
22
14
10
13
14
11
14
11
14
11
30
14
8
9
8
11
23
16
20
27
12
14
15
16
11
10
19
21
14
14
16
20
36
36
11
10
Grayson County, VA (Southwestern VA); family
moved to
Ashe Co., NC -- just across the border.  
This line of descent is through  William Ham, Sr.'s
son, William Ham, Jr. (1785 -- after 1860; Ashe Co.,
NC)  
Ham Surname DNA Project    Dave Hamm
46246
George
Ham 1760
England - ?
Augusta Co
Virginia ?
I1a
13
22
14
10
13
14
11
14
11
13
11
29
14
8
9
11
11
23
16
20
27
12
14
14
16
11
10
19
21
14
14
16
20
35
36
11
10
Augusta County, VA (NW VA) This line of descent is
through George Ham's son, William Ham; and his
grandson,
George Thomas Hamm (1835 VA -- 1915
Missouri)
; contact Scott Hamm.  Possibly a common
ancestor in the 1700's.
Kit #
Name
H
A
P
L
O
3
9
3
3
9
0
1
9
3
9
1
3
8
5
a
3
8
5
b
4
2
6
3
8
8
4
3
9
3
8
9
1
3
9
2
3
8
9
2
4
5
8
4
5
9
a
4
5
9
b
4
5
5
4
5
4
4
4
7
4
3
7
4
4
8
4
4
9
4
6
4
a
4
6
4
b
4
6
4
c
4
6
4
d
4
6
0
G
A
T
A
H
4
Y
C
A
II
a
Y
C
A
II
b
4
5
6
6
0
7
5
7
6
5
7
0
C
D
Y
a
C
D
Y
b
4
4
2
4
3
8
DYS MARKER # columns represent DNA Y
Chromosome Segment values for up to 37 DNA
markers tested.  HAPLO column is for Haplogroups
which denote deep family ancestry group relation-
ships.  
Red Markers tend to mutate at a faster rate
than others.
42370
William J.
Ham
1819 NC
1890 AL
I1a
13
22
15
10
13
14
11
14
11
13

***
11
29

***
14
8
9
8
11
23
16
20
27
12
14
15
16
11
10
19
21
14
14
16
20
35
36
11
10
Marker test results in this row are from a Y-DNA
sample from Marvin J. Hamm, Jr., 5 generations
removed from William J. Ham.  
*** Markers 389-1 &
389-2 are connected.  389-2 totals will effectively
"double record" changes which occur only in 389-1. In
this case there is only one mutation (389-1).  This line
of descent is through Robert Solomon Ham.
PQ4ZU
Arthur
Hamm
1927-1978
WV
I1a
13
22
14
10
13
14
11
14
11
14
11
30
                                                  I have been unable to make contact with the DNA
donor for this listing.  Believed to be a cousin from
Dave Hamm's line.   
Bluefield, West Virginia
Data from Ysearch.org
40777
William
Ham, Sr.
1755-1813
VA
I1a
13
22
14
10
13
14
11
14
11
14
11
30
14
8
9
8
11
23
16
20
27
12
14
15
16
11
10
19
21
14
14
16
20
36
36
11
10
Grayson County, VA (Southwestern VA); family
moved to
Ashe Co., NC (Northwestern NC) -- just
across the border.  This line of descent is through  
William Ham, Sr.'s son, William Ham, Jr. (1785 -- after
1860; Ashe Co., NC)  
Ham Surname DNA Project
Marv Hamm's Genealogy Home Page
William J. Ham  family  --  Y-DNA test results  --  comparison and analysis
Dave Hamm's  "Ham Surname DNA Project"  promises to be a great source for pointing family researchers in the right
direction to look for a paper trail to help fill in the missing history for their Ham family's genealogy.

What the above results show is that our family descending from William J. Ham shares a common ancestor with Dave
Hamm's family descending from William Ham, Sr., of Grayson County, Virginia.  Based on the genetic distance of  "3"
(3 deviations in the comparison of the two results) displayed above, and discounting the possibility of a common
ancestor in the past 7 generations; there is about a 50% probability that we shared a common ancestor within the 4
generations prior to William Ham, Sr., of Grayson County, Virginia; and a cumulative 80% probability that our common
ancestor existed within the 8 generations prior to William Ham, Sr.  I believe that it is very likely that we shared a
common ancestor in this country after the original Ham who established our family line immigrated to America from
Europe.

12/06/05:  Just added info for George Ham (1760 England -- Augusta Co., Va.) submitted by Scott Hamm.  This line of
descent is through George Ham's son, William Ham (b. 1794); and his grandson,
George Thomas Hamm (b. 1835
Augusta County, Virginia -- d. 1915 Liberal, Barton County, Missouri); contact Scott Hamm.  Based on the posted
results, it appears that we may have had a common ancestor in the 1700's.

4/05/06:  Received 12 marker test results from Leonard David (Dave) Hamm, descendant of William J. Ham (NC - AL)
through William's son, Robert Solomon Ham.  Dave Hamm is a grandson of Robert Solomon Ham, and is only 3
generations removed from William J. Ham.  Dave's results for 12 markers are identical to my first 12 markers posted
in the 37 marker test.  With the posting of Dave's 12 markers, it appears that Robert Solomon Ham's Y-DNA profile
would likely have been identical to my 37 marker test results posted above.

My Y-DNA results published above are now 5 generations removed from William J. Ham.  It is very possible that the
Y-DNA results recorded above are a perfect match for William J. Ham.  However, each male child who descended
directly from William J. Ham, and each subsequent generation of Ham males is another chance for a very slight copy
error or mutation to develop in the Y Chromosome DNA markers which are normally passed essentially unchanged
from father to son.  It would still be helpful if one or two additional Ham(m) surnamed males in our family line of
descendants of William J. Ham signed up for Y-DNA testing.  That would help us get closer to establishing the most
likely accurate Y-DNA profile for William J. Ham.
 If we were able to obtain test results from a line that descended
through one of Robert Solomon Ham's brothers, it would help eliminate the possibility that Robert Solomon Ham was
himself the sole source of a minor change in the Y-DNA profile which we are now using as being representative of
William J. Ham.
 Since we have available the posted results representing related lines, William Ham, Sr. (VA) and
George Ham (England); it appears that a 12 marker test would likely be sufficient to predict the Y-DNA profile for
William J. Ham.  We would be most interested in DYS marker # 19 which is included in the 12 marker test.  Our line
shows a "15" for marker # 19, where our related lines (William Ham, VA; and George Ham, England) have a "14".  The
most likely result for any subsequent tests involving descendants of Robert Solomon Ham's brothers would also be a
"15".  If test results show that our William J. Ham likely would have had a "14" for DYS marker # 19, then we may share
a common ancestor with our related lines within a more recent time frame.  It still appears likely that we had a common
ancestor with our recently discovered related lines in the 1700's or in the 1600's.

Note:  In comparing the DNA results for the families of William Ham, Sr., George Ham, and William J. Ham, remember
that there is an equal chance over time that diverging DNA mutations have occurred in each line.

As other Ham(m) lines provide their DNA results in the future, I believe that we will have further opportunities to fill in
some of the blanks in our family history.

More amplifying information on Y-DNA testing and results analysis is available at
Dave Hamm's website  as well as
other sources.  

HAPLOGROUP for our Ham(m) family line is  I1a.  The Haplogroup category groups us according to our deep
ancestry origins.  The I1a haplogroup originated in northwestern Europe.  According to FTDNA:  
"The I1a lineage
likely has its roots in northern France.  Today it is found most frequently within Viking
(descendants) / Scandinavian
populations in northwest Europe and has since spread down into Central and Eastern Europe, where it is found at low
frequencies."  
Haplogroup I1a is a subset of Haplogroup I.  Haplogroup I "dates to 23,000 years ago or longer.  
Lineages not in branches I1a, I1b or I1c are found distributed at low frequency throughout Europe."  So far, individual
SNP's have been tested for our Haplogroup category with the following
results for our Ham surname group:

M170+ M253+ M258+ M307+ P19+ P30+ P38+        M161- M223- M227- M26- M72- P37.2- M21-

( Net result for the above test results is:  I1a )


Ken Nordtvedt's website:

The below classifications of the  I1a  Haplogroup, "AS" for Anglo-Saxon, "N" for Norse, and "uN" for ultra Norse, are the
result of Ken Nordtvedt's studies correlating current population concentrations with similar Y-DNA haplotype test
results.

I1a-AS (Anglo-Saxon)  The most populous category within the  I1a  haplogroup occurs with greatest frequency as a
percentage of the population of continental Europe in the area of origin for the
Angles and the Saxons -- the
Netherlands, northwest Germany, and Denmark.  This variety of the  I1a  haplogroup is found throughout
Germany, Denmark, the Netherlands, and into southern Sweden, Norway, and the British Isles.  The highest
current densities of  
I1a-AS  within the British Isles occur in areas of original Anglo-Saxon invasion / migration and the
Danelaw migration
 (Danish Vikings).  Our Ham Surname group is included in this variety of  I1a.

I1a-N (Norse)  For reference, the Norse category  I1a  haplogroup is currently found in highest concentrations in
Norway, Sweden,
and Finland.

I1a-uN (ultra Norse)  
For reference, the Ultra Norse category  I1a  haplogroup is currently found in highest
concentrations in
Norway, Sweden, and Denmark.

Ken Nordtvdedt's regional map of  I1a  distribution in northwestern Europe

The Danish Vikings -- Three Centuries of the Viking Era -- 16 pages -- text only -- originally published in 1992 by
the Royal Danish Ministry of Foreign Affairs; author:  Jan Skamby Madsen; 105 kb Adobe "pdf" file.
Free Order for the above publication (1995) -- Note:  This publication includes photos missing in the above text
version.  
Update:  I have been advised that the English version is out of stock.  I do not know if they plan to re-print
any more English copies or not.  If you place an order they may reprint when they have enough back-orders.
Map:  Where the Vikings Went and Lived   from   "The Danish Vikings"

The Viking Ship Museum in Roskilde, Denmark -- Filmclips

History Timeline for Northeast England -- Angles and Saxons invade Britain.  Additional links to the Viking invasions.

Additional Links:

Family Tree DNA Home Page

Link to Join the Ham Surname Project through Family Tree DNA

Search the Y-Search DataBase with the above markers representing William J. Ham's line of descent
(Y-Search AN3T6)

Note:  When using the above link to search the Y-Search database, I suggest starting with "25 markers" and
a maximum genetic distance of  "3".  Then try "12 markers" with a genetic distance of  0  to  2+  to see an
expanding list of potential common ancestral lines originating prior to the use of surnames 600 to 1000
years ago.  Listed origins will also show their recent migration history.

With different surnames and "0" genetic distance at the 12 marker level, most listed would have a 50%
probability of a common ancestor with our line in the last 1900 years.  For comparison, with the same Ham
surname and matching 12 markers, the 50% probability level is reached in 150 years.  Increasing tested
markers to 25 or 37 dramatically increases the resolution.  Exact 25/25 matches with same surnamed
individuals is 75 years for 50% probability.  Exact 37/37 matches with same surnamed individuals is 50 years
for 50% probability.  

The Family Tree DNA database shows at least 25 exact matches for the above 12 marker test results (first 12
markers listed) representing William J. Ham's line.  One Ham surname, Leonard David (Dave) Hamm, is
included in the known list of matches.  Recent origins of other exact matches, when known:

Scotland  = 11
Ireland     = 3
Sweden   = 3
England   = 3
UK            = 1
France     = 1
Wales      = 1
Denmark = 1
Norway    = 1

DNA-101:  Y-Chromosome Testing -- from the Blair family DNA project

Kerchner's DNA Testing & Genetic Genealogy Info and Resources Page

DNA Heritage -- testing Y-DNA markers and SNP's for Haplogroups

DNA Heritage Summaries:
Mutations and Mutation Rates -- SNP's and Haplogroups -- Markers & 389-1 & 389-2

Homo Sapiens Timeline  by  L. David Roper

Early Ham Immigrants -- a summary at Dave Hamm's website

Ham surname origins -- a brief summary at Dave Hamm's website

NOTE:  The below Genographic links are posted for info only -- our family Haplogroup is already known ( I1a )

National Geographic's Genographic Project

National Geographic's Anatomy of our Genes (Genographic Project)

National Geographics Genetic Signposts (Genographic Project)

National Geographics Population Genetics (Genographic Project)

National Geographics Genetic Glossary (Genographic Project)

National Geographics Atlas of the Human Journey  (Genographic Project)

National Geographic -- DNA Legacy of Genghis Kahn
Y-DNA  test data below is from Dave Hamm's  "Ham Surname DNA Project"

Note:  The order in which the names are displayed below has been reversed from the Ham Surname Project listing.
An expanded view with database entries for comparison is at the bottom of this page -- comments in the far right column.
Kit #
Name
H
A
P
L
O
3
9
3
3
9
0
1
9
3
9
1
3
8
5
a
3
8
5
b
4
2
6
3
8
8
4
3
9
3
8
9
1
3
9
2
3
8
9
2
4
5
8
4
5
9
a
4
5
9
b
4
5
5
4
5
4
4
4
7
4
3
7
4
4
8
4
4
9
4
6
4
a
4
6
4
b
4
6
4
c
4
6
4
d
4
6
0
G
A
T
A
H
4
Y
C
A
II
a
Y
C
A
II
b
4
5
6
6
0
7
5
7
6
5
7
0
C
D
Y
a
C
D
Y
b
4
4
2
4
3
8
DYS MARKER # columns represent DNA Y
Chromosome Segment values for up to 37 DNA
markers tested.  HAPLO column is for Haplogroups
which denote deep family ancestry group relation-
ships.  
Red Markers tend to mutate at a faster rate
than others.
42370
William J.
Ham
1819 NC
1890 AL
I1a
13
22
15
10
13
14
11
14
11
13

***
11
29

***
14
8
9
8
11
23
16
20
27
12
14
15
16
11
10
19
21
14
14
16
20
35
36
11
10
Marker test results in this row are from a Y-DNA
sample from Marvin J. Hamm, Jr., 5 generations
removed from William J. Ham.  
*** Markers 389-1 &
389-2 are connected.  389-2 totals will effectively
"double record" changes which occur only in 389-1. In
this case there is only one mutation (389-1).  This line
of descent is through Robert Solomon Ham.
PQ4ZU
Arthur
Hamm
1927-1978
WV
I1a
13
22
14
10
13
14
11
14
11
14
11
30
                                                  I have been unable to make contact with the DNA
donor for this listing.  Believed to be a cousin from
Dave Hamm's line.   
Bluefield, West Virginia
Data from Ysearch.org
40777
William
Ham, Sr.
1755-1813
VA
I1a
13
22
14
10
13
14
11
14
11
14
11
30
14
8
9
8
11
23
16
20
27
12
14
15
16
11
10
19
21
14
14
16
20
36
36
11
10
Grayson County, VA (Southwestern VA); family
moved to
Ashe Co., NC (Northwestern NC) -- just
across the border.  This line of descent is through  
William Ham, Sr.'s son, William Ham, Jr. (1785 -- after
1860; Ashe Co., NC)  
Ham Surname DNA Project
Kit #
Name
H
A
P
L
O
3
9
3
3
9
0
1
9
3
9
1
3
8
5
a
3
8
5
b
4
2
6
3
8
8
4
3
9
3
8
9
1
3
9
2
3
8
9
2
4
5
8
4
5
9
a
4
5
9
b
4
5
5
4
5
4
4
4
7
4
3
7
4
4
8
4
4
9
4
6
4
a
4
6
4
b
4
6
4
c
4
6
4
d
4
6
0
G
A
T
A
H
4
Y
C
A
II
a
Y
C
A
II
b
4
5
6
6
0
7
5
7
6
5
7
0
C
D
Y
a
C
D
Y
b
4
4
2
4
3
8
DYS MARKER # columns represent DNA Y
Chromosome Segment values for up to 37 DNA
markers tested.  HAPLO column is for Haplogroups
which denote deep family ancestry group relation-
ships.  
Red Markers tend to mutate at a faster rate
than others.
42370
William J.
Ham
1819 NC
1890 AL
I1a
13
22
15
10
13
14
11
14
11
13

***
11
29

***
14
8
9
8
11
23
16
20
27
12
14
15
16
11
10
19
21
14
14
16
20
35
36
11
10
Marker test results in this row are from a Y-DNA
sample from Marvin J. Hamm, Jr., 5 generations
removed from William J. Ham.  
*** Markers 389-1 &
389-2 are connected.  389-2 totals will effectively
"double record" changes which occur only in 389-1. In
this case there is only one mutation (389-1).  This line
of descent is through Robert Solomon Ham.
PQ4ZU
Arthur
Hamm
1927-1978
WV
I1a
13
22
14
10
13
14
11
14
11
14
11
30
                                                  I have been unable to make contact with the DNA
donor for this listing.  Believed to be a cousin from
Dave Hamm's line.   
Bluefield, West Virginia
Data from Ysearch.org
40777
William
Ham, Sr.
1755 -1813
VA
I1a
13
22
14
10
13
14
11
14
11
14
11
30
14
8
9
8
11
23
16
20
27
12
14
15
16
11
10
19
21
14
14
16
20
36
36
11
10
Grayson County, VA (Southwestern VA); family
moved to
Ashe Co., NC -- just across the border.  
This line of descent is through  William Ham, Sr.'s
son, William Ham, Jr. (1785 -- after 1860; Ashe Co.,
NC)  
Ham Surname DNA Project      Dave Hamm
Kit #
Name
H
A
P
L
O
3
9
3
3
9
0
1
9
3
9
1
3
8
5
a
3
8
5
b
4
2
6
3
8
8
4
3
9
3
8
9
1
3
9
2
3
8
9
2
4
5
8
4
5
9
a
4
5
9
b
4
5
5
4
5
4
4
4
7
4
3
7
4
4
8
4
4
9
4
6
4
a
4
6
4
b
4
6
4
c
4
6
4
d
4
6
0
G
A
T
A
H
4
Y
C
A
II
a
Y
C
A
II
b
4
5
6
6
0
7
5
7
6
5
7
0
C
D
Y
a
C
D
Y
b
4
4
2
4
3
8
DYS MARKER # columns represent DNA Y
Chromosome Segment values for up to 37 DNA
markers tested.  HAPLO column is for Haplogroups
which denote deep family ancestry group relation-
ships.  
Red Markers tend to mutate at a faster rate
than others.
46246
George
Ham 1760
England -
Augusta Co
Virginia
I1a
13
22
14
10
13
14
11
14
11
13
11
29
14
8
9
11
11
23
16
20
27
12
14
14
16
11
10
19
21
14
14
16
20
35
36
11
10
Augusta County, VA (NW VA) This line of descent is
through George Ham's son, William Ham; and his
grandson,
George Thomas Hamm (1835 VA -- 1915
Missouri); contact Scott Hamm.  Possibly a common
ancestor in the 1700's.
55330
William J.
Ham
1819 NC
1890 AL
  13
22
15
10
13
14
11
14
11
13
11
29
                                                  Results from  Leonard David (Dave) Hamm,
3 generations removed from William J. Ham.  This line
of descent is through Robert Solomon Ham.